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Hello everyone, and i agree with everyone here that your tuts are the best i've found on the web. i am making my very first web site on my own and learning css and html from reading and tuts. i know some basic html, i'm great with designing my graphics and layers, and not affraid to stick with this and keep learning code. that said. i'm confused on what codes to use for pop-out menus. i know that maybe i'm taking on more then i should, but i know how i want my site to work. lists i've learned now, ul and ol's. but to make them slide out to the right when you hover on an item on your left column vertical nav menu is not sinking in my head for some reason. i just can't understand what's missing. the code and styles i've used makes the list pop out but kind of eratically. i thought, or think, it has to do with position and/or float and/or index, oooooorr bahaviors. i'm just not sure . but what i try doesn't seem to work.is there a possibility of a video tut coming real soon showing how to do this? you guys are soooo great in your videos. and i learn so much. though i'm still mixed up about which to use first or all together - css style template or master dynamic template or both. i understand what the dynamic temp. does, and that i want to use that for my site. but i think what i'm mixed up about is when would you only use a css template? maybe you guys can explain that to me. i hope i'm not coming off as really dumb, i'm trying so hard to learn this on my own. and going to ready made templates isn't for me, i like designing immensely, especially graphics. and i want to accomplish this so badly, but i'm stuck. everything i know i've learned on my own through tuts and forums from wonderful people like you guys. and i wouldn't ask for help if i could figure it out, but three weeks of trying to find the answer is driving me crazy lol. sorry to go on and on...and thank you for any help or advice you guys give me. Antoniette
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| If you are set on creating the pop out menus in EW I can't help you - but I use a third party software program to create menus and then easily insert them into EW. http://www.sothink.com/product/dhtmlmenu/index.htm This comes with many menu templates that can be easily built on or you can create your very own. If this is what you are looking for, there is a free trial. But if you want to build them in EW maybe someone else here can help you.
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| ty guy, but learning 'another' program right now would be too much for me. i'm trying very hard to learn the codes and understand how to write them, so while a program that writes it for me would be great its just not cost effective for me right now or will help me learn the in's and out's of code. thank you very much though. antoniette
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Are you trying to do something like this?
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/example/vertical.html
I've not personally tried that with CSS, but that looks like a pretty good example. If I had more time available at the moment I'd try to go through it more for you. For now I'd suggest studying the code used there and post up any questions.
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| YES! that is EXACTLY what i wanted dustin! thank you. i will try to study the code and see if i can figure out how to use it...but if you have any pointers, i wouldn't turn you down lol....i've been studying codes for weeks trying to figure out how they work for these type menus, and finally broke down and asked for help. i get so confused because of the diff. type codes and why some won't work in EWD and most of these seem to be in javascript which i was told to stay away from. And honestly, you guys have THE BEST video tuts. i've learned alot from you guys. thank you dustin antoniette
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| hi again, i guess what's confusing me is how to know which codes are supposed to come first and what order they are supposed to come in?? how do i learn that? and where. all these menu's that i am studying, and copying into my website, some work and some don't and i'm not sure why? can anyone explain? thanks, antoniette
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| Ya, that could be some pretty confusing code to try to break apart when you're just getting started. It does use one bit of javascript that is included right in the file. I'd try to break the whole page down for you if I was in town at the moment. But if you have any questions about any specific lines of the example, let me know and I'll try to tell you what it does. Let's take a quick look at how they're formatting the lists; 1. <ul id="nav"> -This line opens the master unordered list.
2. <li><a href="#">Percoidei</a> -This line creates the first navigation item.
3. <ul> - This line tells the page that Percoidei will have its own pop out menu.
4. <li><a href="#">Remoras</a> This creates the first nav item for the second level of Percoidei.
5. <ul> - Like in line 3, this line is letting us know that Remoras will also have its own pop out menu.
6. <li><a href="#">Echeneis</a> -Like line 4, this sets the first item for the pop out menu of Remoras.
7. <ul> - And again, we're saying that now Echeneis will also have a pop out menu.
8. <li><a href="#">Sharksucker</a></li>
9. <li><a href="#">Whitefin Sharksucker</a></li> In lines 8 & 9 we're setting the menu items for Echeneis. Notice that this time we closed the <li> tags, which means that there are no more subnavs when we roll over Sharksucker and Whitefin Sharksucker.
10. </ul> - Now we need to start closing the tags we've left open. This line closes the ul of Echeneis on line 7.
11. </li> This closes the line item of Echeneis on line 6.
12. </ul> This closes line 5.
13. </li> This closes line 4.
14. </ul> This closes line 3.
15. </li> This closes line 2.
16. </ul> And this closes line 1 and thus the finishes the unordered list. Now granted this is a pretty extreme example, but you can see how we can keep adding more and more subnavs to this one menu. If we only wanted on main nav, and then one subnav, we would stop adding so many. If you take a look at this bit of code, and the working example you can see which parts this bit of code covers. Hopefully this helps some for now. I'd work on understanding the format, before trying to understand all of the css code. Let me know how its working for you.
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My wife has given birth to our twins, so I'm still going to be spotty around here. It never seems to correct itself does it? I'm sorry, I'm trying.
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| thank you dustin,...sorry to bug you on your vacation...and thanks again...i'll keep studying...and thank you so much for breaking it down for me... antoniette
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